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This recognition means productions are now able to use the relatively affordable S1H as a main camera, so long as the footage is captured within a range of formats and settings. @pollup I think that's their bitrate for H264 recording, not H265 recording. Perhaps they should use proper cameras instead of trying to certify cameras that clearly are not up to the job. THat's because for every good movie they make, Netflix makes like 30 horrible movies. Visit our corporate site. Or is the mount not a technical aspect of the camera system? Probably cause you can do better in post... i also bet the footage is already pretty clean. I read through the comments after seeing ozturert's post debunking false info received 41 likes. That is someone's ill informed opinion. @edn80 wow so much hate for Sony? Stop talking nonsense.2. RED. Aristotle was a nothing special.Sometimes legends are built on nothing's.Like 99% of the stories in the Bible. It was a mantra more than anything else. Sure there's less rolling shutter artifacts. Sigma says they are working on one, but only time will tell how popular this camera will be in this market segment. The news here is that a still+motion camera is joining the list, making it likely that more will join soon, which will bring costs down for makers of movies and documentaries. I feel like more than ever, it's money and the quickest road to fame that rule everything. But some obviously feel their brand is under attack. Panasonic has long been at … They take lots of action. Lots of posters here, including you, will take care of this "important" task! There are Blackmagic cameras on the list though, so it’s not a boycott. His history of name calling and bashing only reinforces that perception. @MrBrightSideCinema lenses (the good ones anyway) also tend to be made in sets with matching constrast & colour so that the look of the capture remains consistent throughout the scene. They also upcharge 4K content so having 4K content to upcharge FOR is in their interest. Cinematographers are very intentional people and match the camera to the project based on the mood they want to create, the story they want to tell. Similarly, huge distress appears to be brought forth by the Super35 crop for 4K60 from the S1H and the S1, yet little is made of the 20% crop which the A7III has for mere 4K30 (that's 4K thirty not even sixty). (Hopefully...). I thought "Blair Witch" was fun, if not exactly brilliant. Why do you have such high standards and at the same time talk so much nonsense? Its a social construct of lowest common denominators. The main action would be shot on an Arri or RED etc, simply because of the their pedigree and history in the movie/TV making business. I wonder if that precludes the SIGMA fp since it doesn't yet provide LOG, despite providing 2500mbps CinemaDNG etc. That doesn't mean those cameras should magically be exempted from the rules. Sony has the tech to make a competitor, but in the past 3 years has chosen not to. I guess you are right, they should just point out the specs and not the individual cameras in their supported list. Similarly, the G9 and GH5 do not crop, yet their sensors are x2 crops already, so even the S1 and S1H having Super35 4K60 places them ahead of everyone else, and the S1R pioneers with x1.09. My comment here was at listings like the Netflix list, and also at those focusing on way higher specs than what cover their needs to justify their purchases. Now to get back on topic. There is no perfect rule but rules will force companies to improve their tech, which is good. Sony will continue to do well. . The S1H is built on the same platform as Panasonic’s other S1 cameras such as the Lumix S1 and S1R with a bulky, although ergonomic, design. Correct in order to show the fallacious argument you had first stating that the s1h puts out a more detailed picture than the cameras used to film most of the movies you have seen in my lifetime. Well done Panasonic! My point was that for any given bit-rate, Long GOP will store considerably more information than All-Intra, especially if it's using H.265 / HEVC compression. This could be huge for the S1H right, might be a popular camera now? @Seanzzxx: I don't think "arbitrary" is the word you want to use. Now your spatial fidelity drops significantly. The 24mm F3.5, 35mm F2 and 65mm F2 DG DN share similar designs and have weather-sealed metal bodies. Try again. THey're two companies going for different things. You want a $30,000 cinema camera (with a half-frame Super35 sensor, mind you) because you're worried that you might get tiny video artifacts. Do I have to insult people's intelligence by mentioning it's a sarcasm, or adding emojis? Panasonic's latest full-frame S1H has become the first mirrorless camera certified for Netflix productions, as part of the streaming company's Post Technology Alliance. While hybrids look like terrible good value, they do cost some extra effort and a pretty penny to rig out to the level of the videocamera's they compete with. Many movies that have $200 million budgets have been filmed with..... film, which does not have 4k resolution. It is both the first mirrorless camera and the cheapest camera to join the list of approved cameras. :-). Even if it's shot in 6K, Netflix would want it delivered to them in 4K which is their highest resolution to consumers. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. But in confined spaces, somewhere on auction cups and a tiny BTS crew I can easily see the Panasonic get used. The camera may capture 400 MHz (Mb/s), but the data bandwidth is far smaller with high-compression codecs. Netflix guidelines stipulate that 90% or more of a show’s runtime be shot on these approved cameras. A $500 Panasonic GX85 will correct barrel distortion in video while a $6000 Blackmagic cinema camera thinks digital corrections are too hard, or inelegant, or something. Just let down as a stills camera by lack of OSPDAF. The Panasonic S1H shoots full frame 4K 10bit ALL-I at 400Mbit, in V-LOG with V-Gamut, meaning it passes the minimum requirement. As I said - joined Sep 26 2019, will probably have another screen name by Christmas. No problem for me - They don't sell anyway :), I believe S1H has much better AF than ARRI’s Alexa LF and RED Weapon Dragon 8K. Either Marty G9's mother is on the forum, or Marty G9 already has another screen name ready in the very likely case that he's banned in the near future. This is why certain 4k movies look amazing even if filmed from cameras that are below 4k. Adapters are not frowned upon for high level work that's manual focus... which is most high level work. => 3.4k won't cut it.Netflix is looking at the future and decided to have native 4k for all content, good move. There is some serious Sony hysteria happening on DPR right now. Whenever a new camera does not have it, people in this forum will usually bash it. It certainly makes sense to skip the S1 for a double-duty S1H, if budgets permit. The S1H records to SD cards, which are not nearly fast enough for 4K60 10-bit video without heavy compression. Planning to treat yourself to a new full-frame camera this holiday season? Popular culture is not culture at all. It's 4K but might as well be 720p for all the visual resolution the screen can show. DJI's second-generation Pocket camera includes a long list of useful upgrades including a wider, faster lens, a larger sensor, more resolution, improved audio and an optional handle that significantly improves control and supports live streaming. Well you can't compare RED to panasonic. These official lists I linked to also not about movies. How’s that working out for you? Effects like panning, zooming, or pulling focus can reveal distortion that would be pleasant or not noticeable in a still image. Because consistency and quality are intertwined when distributing entertainment and there are serious people working at Netflix who want to produce the best experience possible for their customers. The X-T3 is a marvellous camera, yet it does crop slightly down from APS-C when recording 4K60 (perhaps x1.8?). Yes like an actual higher end cinema camera like I've been saying all along. Netflix has published its requirements for cameras and settings that must be used when creating Netflix shows, and this list has generally included higher-end (and much larger cinema), cameras. I've just checked ebay, and you can buy decent S35 FS7 for $4500. That is impressive and they deserve to be congratulated for their achievement. I wouldn't be surprised if "diffraction compensation and vignetting compensation" don't play nice with Netflix's algorithms that downsample the video bitstream. Who cares?A film captured with only an iPhone 5 (iirc) won Sundance (again, iirc). But I'm hoping that you can get around that by capturing ProRes Raw from the S1H on an Atomos. Netflix releases way more content than you might think. You'd be hard pressed to notice that a compromise had been made. "The fact is that this s1h puts out a more detailed picture than the cameras used to film most of the movies you have seen in your lifetime--unless you are 10 years old or so.". The Panasonic S1H has been approved by Netflix for use as an 'A' (primary) camera for filming Netflix Originals productions on the platform. User Manual. I have seen reviews of cameras where their video capabilities are often compared to GH series, which makes the GH an unofficial baseline. If it will ever. Yes, there are cameras which record ProRes internally - a Sony F55 Venice for one. Except for certain types of documentaries, AF is not used for serious productions. @ Marty G9: Topic here is the Netflix list. They're only good for Instagram. Sonys A7s low res sensor with it's super low colour noise is the most special one I know. That would help assuage my fear that my monitor must just be horrible and broken. Why pay, in dollars and optical compromises, for movie lenses that pretend they're projecting onto 1950s emulsion so these problems are not trivial to solve? Isn't L - mount the system which lenses have so huge price that makes Sony GM lenses affordable? Did something wrong with this picture. @mosc you're right, my bad. It's your choice. Rest of the photographic camera manufacturers are farther away from S1h, in terms of video capabilities at-least. MF is ok for big budget production where paying experienced focus pullers is not a problem. The rear camera (or cameras) on an iPhone has all the latest bells and whistles, but how do you use them to capture a selfie or record a video of yourself? With that said I don't mind Netflix having strict rules but in reality there are cameras that are certainly better than the ones listed on the approved list. last year. Depending on which system you're in and what your needs are, they might just be the compact, well-priced and impressively sharp little primes you've been looking for. Your skill at saying the opposite of what you mean is greater than the ability of the readers to decode your meaning. You make it sound like Netflix just pulled 3840x2160 out of a hat. @ozturert: concerning trolls I can hear the pot calling the kettle black. Make an argument other than, "it's more expensive". Camera : Effective Pixels: Preferred Recording Format: RED KOMODO 6K. Other attributes must be taken into account such as dynamic range, form factor, stability, workflow compatibility, etc. Speaking of Blair Witch Project, I remember watching a bootleg copy from a theater on like the 2-3rd night it was playing. Something that Panasonic does a pretty good job with. @Ed Ingold:The real reason Netflix is accepting only the Panasonic camera for their footage and no other DSLR/mirrorless cameras is the fact that only this camera ticks all the technological boxes (frame rate, bit depth, logs etc). If you watch the first season of the Punisher on Netflix, you'll see that the whole thing was purposely blurred and grained to add to some artistic desire for what I assume is "realism" or "grit". Ah! Enter the Ulanzi ST-09, an adjustable mount that allows you to turn an Apple Watch into a live viewfinder on the rear of your iPhone. I can't even bear the thought of watching that stuff again. Best specs are moving forth and back?Not if you’re talkin about Sony ML vs Panasonic. In my experience in the movie biz they don’t use “full frame” because it’s too nebulous. Now you're quoting another true believer... Ha Ha be hold the power of big company HaHa. lol. @tedtailboas That certification is for a European broadcast TV standard, so maybe ENG. I don't get why you say DPREVIEW is "attacking brands" by posting this article about Panasonic. Focus groups are making the films and music of today.. @hellraiser if that’s the case then you shouldn’t worry. This is a bit a chicken-egg problem. For the price, there is no match for S1H.Difficult to understand for trolls of that specific brand. In other words, it’s the only mirrorless camera Netflix allows to be used as a primary camera on […] Additional suggestions include using the S1H’s Pixel Refresh setting at least yearly, using the sensor cleaning feature and making sure the firmware is always up to date. Corrections of the sort proscribed by Netflix cause problems when grading the video. The sad truth about the internet and the democratisation of information is that it has exposed a frightening number of illiterate and obtuse internet users. Now, with its ascension to the Netflix Post Technology Alliance, Panasonic is keeping even more exclusive company. Seems like the problem is not Sony users, but "anti Sony users". Interestingly, the S1H can do 4096 x 2160 @ 60p, but with greater compression to 200Mb/s (using H.265) and Netflix apparently does not accept that mode. “You made a non sequiter and a logical fallacy.”. I'm curious to see if the SIGMA fp will make it, though that may be contingent upon the curiously omitted LOG coming via firmware. Panasonic leads the pack for video. Panasonic S1H What’s so special about this mirrorless? Netflix’s approved cameras list have all been dedicated video cameras. The Canon EOS Rebel T8i (also known as the EOS 850D or Kiss X10i in some markets) is a 24MP DSLR aimed at first-time DSLR buyers and enthusiasts. Granted these might not be productions made/produced/overseen/etc by Netflix itself, but they show on there so it isn't as if everything that can be seen on there is of the very highest quality 4k standard. @ Marty G9: I agree that if you are serious about video productions and want a Sony camera, their pro video line is where to go. 2160 is outside the capability at any frame rate. Yep, you are right. Well done Panasonic. Conversely, the butthurt tone of your answers talks volumes about your own brand insecurity. @Francis Sawyer"line ball" or "line-ball": A spit decision, as in tennis when it's arguable whether the ball has touched the line or not. GH5S is not on the official list... That article didn't link to any official source either. “The a7s has bigger pixels than either of them are you saying it has the best image quality? Low 'compression'? "coup? The whole thing takes place on the streets of the seedy part of Hollywood (where I grew up BTW) and if any movie suited itself to being shot on iPhone, it is that one. But not always.A few companies rehouse old Nikkors to be used for cinema work.Leica makes a couple of lines of cinema lenses, the next time you’re at the movies watch the credits to the end, they usually list the lenses used. Thanks for that clarification BJL. So no, for *pictures* we go to other manufacturers. In this buying guide we’ve rounded up all the current interchangeable lens cameras costing around $2000 and recommended the best. Yes. • The best cinema cameras. Netflix didn't randomly make up 4k; it's an established resolution and standard used by many facets of the industry, including TV's, monitors, cameras, software, and even phones and of course, web content. For now, the app is in beta and limited to a handful of Samsung Galaxy smartphones, but as development continues, it's safe to assume support for other Android devices is on the way. From Netflix point of view, I hope that this is just the beginning and they will continue to certify others. His choice of video camera is validated by Netflix. Description; 24.2MP Full-Frame CMOS Sensor and Venus Engine ; Video Recording; Body Design; 5-Axis Sensor … 1 MB/s (megaBYTE per second) is 8 Mbps (megaBIT per second). Currently, there are no current Netflix Original productions using the S1H, ‘to the best of [Panasonic’s] knowledge,’ but having the full-frame mirrorless camera available as an approved camera should draw massive appeal for smaller operations where budget is more a factor. The Lumix is a fantastic camera as is, it doesn't need embellishment. If it's only in this article, it 'looks like' fake news. Or DPR, Digital Phone Review. Best specs are moving forth and back between brands. Just record ProRes Raw on a Ninja or Shogun if you're worried about it. Most of the world is still viewing at 1080. There are indeed, and you can’t simply expect not to be mistaken for one if the only thing that people observe from you is you stating the opposite of what you mean in an attempt at being “sarcastic”, regardless of whether they agree with you or not. How many people have watched "The Blair Witch Project" a second time? Native lenses have no advantage when it comes to these comparisons. You make my case about compression. Complaining about the comment section is usually the death of the comment section. This is best price on a GoPro camera EVER! Sony will need to respond if it wants a part of the same market segment at this price. The new Sony FX9 has all the bitrates as well as the brilliantly fast reliable continuous tracking AF from A9. The fact that there are some 2/3" cameras on the list does not automatically mean that there is 0 chance that DR is taken ito consideration. PANASONIC LUMIX S1H Digital Mirrorless Video Camera with 24.2 Full Frame Sensor, 6K/24p Video Recording Capability,... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Irishman_(2019_film), https://www.ducloslenses.com/products/sltopl, https://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-SL/SL-Lenses, https://www.smh.com.au/business/when-every-day-is-a-line-ball-decision-20050408-gdl36b.html, https://ymcinema.com/2019/05/28/the-cameras-behind-netflix-best-series-spoiler-red-dominates/, https://www.redsharknews.com/production/item/5447-now-you-can-officially-use-your-gh5s-as-a-primary-camera-for-broadcast, DPReview TV: Best enthusiast full-frame mirrorless camera, Panasonic firmware shares more features across S1, S1R, S1H and S5. Even XQD cards would be a stretch. @PavelR2 what has that got to do with anything I said? That is not why. Sensor differences? I'm sorry, but the I would prefer to IQ of the S1H than a F55. 6K: 6144x3240 - REDCODE RAW (HQ or MQ) RED DSMC2 / WEAPON MONSTRO 8K VV. Adaptors are used for high end work, although it has to be made well and currently the only one available from a popular cinema mount to L-mount is this Leitz at $1400. Most film students shoot their Thesis' on Alexa's but that doesn't mean anything. Please don't dismiss what you don't (or can't) use. Clearly, Canon, Panasonic and Sony all makes multiple cameras which meet that professional production standard, along with ARRI, RED and BlackMagic. Other features such as the in-body image stabilization are also approved with some  limitations (in this case a "Not for panning" designation, arguably to counter the 'jelly'-like warping effects sometimes produced by IBIS with panning shots). The Panasonic S1H can be paired with the DMW-XLR-1 adapter for "real audio." These requirements are the minimum specifications necessary for consideration. Gotta admit, 4K is not exactly new at this point. I dont really fancy cameras without OVF. You mean to tell me that reading a printed book now needs emojis? The look of the film and the subject complement each other perfectly. I watched it with some friends and wanted a refund. What’s the best camera for less than $1000? You asked me about rolling shutter and sensor differences first. Panasonic also has a pretty amazing noise pattern that makes their video look more grainy than it does noisy. Your belief in 'smoking' is merely a religious one not based anything substantial. Check out the winners of the 2020 DPReview Awards! But in the end it can be handy to have a small camera that can be placed there where a large camera can't be placed. I mean All I is always going to be better than Long GOP even if it can pull more data. All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998 - 2020 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved. As Netflix have a 10bit ALL-I or 16bit linear minimum requirement, the Canon C200 misses out on the list due to the RAW format not being 16bit and the normal 4K codec being just 8bit. And now hybrid cameras have fully arrived. Have a look at our initial sample gallery taken on a full-frame Sony body. Once you begin to see them, they become highly distracting. Movies and episodic television are shot on movie cameras—Reds, Arris, Panasonic VariCams, and the big Sonys like the F55 and F65.https://ymcinema.com/2019/05/28/the-cameras-behind-netflix-best-series-spoiler-red-dominates/As you were gentlemen. The Panasonic LUMIX S series are some of the best performing full-frame mirrorless cameras available for video. I have personally used it with at highest possible codec options on V-log L.. Never saw it a problem!well said s1oth1overchunk! Panasonic GH4/GH4s/GH5/GH5s went a bit further with sensor sizes, but did not have RAW. I understand that the S1H 6K mode uses short cuts that dip below the Netflix threshold. last year. Curious what sony will deliver with the a7s3.. Simple actions like push-to-focus (engage AF temporarily) are difficult or impossible to implement. The Arri (obviously) crushes the S1H in every aspect including, likely, spatial fidelity. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, Mines arrives on Tuesday, so I'm gonna have to ramp up quickly for this weekend's wedding shoot! Optically they’re usually designed so that objects in the frame stay the same size as the focus moves from one point to another. They shoot on such a variety of equipment and with so many aspect ratios they are careful to be quite specific.Also, they generally use locking mounts rather than bayonet. Also the C300 Mark II gets more screen time than both the Sony's. There are a lot of photo/video cameras that have found a role as B-cameras on professional productions or A-camera for amateur and independent productions. Panasonic Releases S1H Raw Video Firmware Update. Looking at fPrime profile, he's not even using a Sony camera, he's using Canon / Nikon / Fuji. No one's mentioned the Nikon Z-series, yet, only Sony - what's happening with the whole Atomos RAW extravaganza? Many special effects are still rendered at 2k. Therefore you CAN'T set it to zero. For that mode the camera uses line-skipping and that is a no-no for Netflix, not the bitrate persé. You are actively missing the point it seems. Honestly one of the worst color grading, exposure, and quality I have seen in a mainstream show in a long time has been 13 reasons why season season 3. The A9ii isn't even out! Having suffered through The Cloverfield Paradox and about a dozen other awful Netflix 'exclusives,' I'd suggest they worry more about the content of their submissions rather than those precious video specs. There is mounds of info already written on this subject so the idea that it's almost 2020 and you refused to do your own Google search on this is mind boggling. "Brilliant" alone isn't going to cut it, commercially. An upscaled Arri will have a WAY sharper picture than an a7 III, for example, even though the a7 III natively shoots an oversampled 6k image that is output at 4k. That’s fine, just hoping to bring a voice of reason to these proceedings. But it costs $11000, in EU a lot more. TV settings -> set NR to high. Mhz means a million cycles per second and has nothing to do with a million bits per second. I already made my point in my original post. The Canon RF 800mm F11's unique combination of telephoto reach, affordability and light weight will likely enable even more people to do the same. That's a small "b" for bits. All-I is harder on your machine while editing but that's just because the information is more dense due to it encoding every frame. It's literally their first requirement: "Camera must have a true 4K/UHD sensor (equal-to or greater than 3840 photosites wide)." Earlier there have been lists like this from press agencies for accepted cameras, and the lists looked much like a random pick. Are current Sony cameras that big of a disappointment? Sony's Tough SD Cards do 300MB/s Read and 299MB/s Write. You can't shoot 4k with an HD camera, get ATLEAST a 4k.But yes, sometime we all can get little too obsessive about it! Every set of cinema FF lenses will mount fine. When Alexa Arri systems are rejected by Netflix, you know it's gotta be damn good. It also generally means it will have a much longer focus throw than stills camera lenses and a declicked aperture ring. As part of the LUMIX S series, Panasonic aims to release them on the global market early 2019. I did find DoP comments along the lines of 'The S1H could be used as a B-cam or C-cam' and someone compared Panasonic Varicam footage alongside the S1H and found them to be very similar (not surprising really).I agree that the S1H is not even remotely designed to replace an ARRI or RED etc. In the early days of Blu-ray, many movies received a noise reduction in post, and people hated that, and the companies then stopped using denoising. Long version: the S1H supports UHS-II cards which can write at up to 260MB/s or 1040Mb/s, way beyond the 400Mp=b/s rates of either the camera or the Netflix requirements. Rolling shutter? Well, the Panny gives easy acces to L-mount with some really nice lenses. You usually have zero context on the “characters” (which are also much more varied and numerous), and no description of their body language (except for emojis). In this buying guide we’ve rounded up all the current interchangeable lens cameras costing under $1000 and recommended the best. Indeed, new productions should have BOTH good technical quality AND story quality.Btw - The Irishman is about to be released on NF - I expect it to score in both areas. Hasselblad medium format is all-in on digital corrections, as is micro 4/3, but video so far doesn't seem to put much value on them. @mick232 Any of those Sony CAMERAS cost $3999? It takes heavy compression, low Chroma (4,2,0) and long GOP to squeeze video onto an SD card. There is no A7Siii, despite all the wishing hoping and dreaming. None of them are autofocus. No camera can do that... 400Mbps via H264 compression vs 400Mbps ProRes compression are two completely different things. It’s not about Netflix movies. With your Sandisk Extreme Pro writing at 80 MB/s, that is 640 Mbps. Sigma's new primes promise very good performance and light weight, when paired with L-mount and Sony E-mount mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. With rolling shutter artifacts and inferior codec. This means that getting yourunderwater videoon Netflix is just a little bit more feasible as the Panasonic S1H is more of a consumer priced camera at $4,000 than a professional cinema camera. LOL, horrible. Ι guess that Pana strategically aimed to offer a high quality yet affordable solution compliant to industry's standards and did it, that's all. Panasonic firmware brings 5K recording to S1R, updated autofocus to S1, S1R, S1H, DPReview TV: Panasonic S1H ProRes Raw review, Atomos releases full Ninja V firmware update for recording 5.9K 12-bit ProRes Raw with Panasonic S1H, Raw video output for Panasonic Lumix DC-S1H now available, ProRes Raw video capture delayed for Lumix S1H, but firmware v2.0 still set to ship next week, Panasonic announces 5.9K ProRes Raw video for Lumix DC-S1H, Sigma 35mm F2 DG DN Sample Gallery (DPReview TV), Laowa 15mm F4.5 Zero-D Shift lens sample gallery (DPReview TV). I’m sure your Fujifilm camera’s will be added soon . As a bonus, it's also a very competent 24MP stills camera. Read Seanzzxx's posts above on the subject as well. What's the matter with you people? I don't know what the heck you are talking about as far as "similar sized pixels". Using the right equipment doesn't guarantee acceptance from Netflix or any other user. @ MikiI'm putting my hope on the Fuji XH2, which will get the 4k60 10bit 422 and CAF from XT3 as well as IBIS and ergonomics from XH1. Definitely the S1H is a serious step and even Sony users, like me, highly appreciate this camera, no question. We compare the Canon EOS R6, Nikon Z6 II, Panasonic S5 and Sony a7 III. All rights reserved. It makes life so much easier when you don't have complete control of lighting. As one of my students says, there a lot of stupid people in this world. image stabilization system. I am sure Magnar W agrees that video from this camera has the potential to be superior to all the weak Sony 8 bit ILC offerings. They are far ahead of what s mount has. I toppled your "s1h puts out a more detailed picture than the cameras used to film most of the movies you have seen in your lifetime" comment using your own logic. And if so, that's a bummer. I've watched and played quite a bit of tennis, but never heard "line ball" in any context. Nevertheless, I really appreciate this move from Panasonic, if only it had usable C-AF. Bu, but Selena gomez shot it iphone, darn... With enough lighting and (professional) crew to fill a large truck. Other Panasonic cameras are already at the party. @ Marty G9: No, I have not said that Dpreview is attacking brands. I've spent $3,900 on Black Friday / Cyber Monday (so far), GuruShots: winning photographs from the Artistic Still Life contest, Take your photos to the next level with Luminar AI’s Templates, MPB used kit challenge: get a marvelous macro photography setup on the cheap, Benro Rhino tripod kits offer the ultimate performance for an affordable price, The best cheap cameras in 2020: we pick the best discounted camera bargains, The best dash cam in 2020: constant protection for you and your vehicle, The best instant cameras in 2020 – from best instax to best Polaroid cameras. Funny. If you have to tell readers it’s sarcasm, it’s the readers who have the problem. Nevermind, I think I had mixed up how big the disparity in bit-rate the actual codecs were. This year, despite the disruption, plenty of amazing cameras, lenses, accessories and other products came through our doors. That makes sense. The problem with Sony has nothing to do with bitrates, it has to do with their lack of bit depth. Currently you can't make HDR content with Sony MILC because they're only 8 Bit. Besides the S1H being Netflix approved, when combined with an Atomos Ninja V, it takes image latitude to new levels thanks to ProRes RAW recording. Everyone wants footage that can be future proof with the possibility of 4K HDR. Interesting to see that Netflix doesn't require 4K with 60fps for pro-grade video production. I'm not being pedantic, but that's the way it is. RED IQ has been pretty lackluster the past 5 years. They've always been there, we just didn't notice it because it was not at our grasp before the internet came and showed us the misery of the world. However at current time, no other cameras, including these two comes close to the codec options and processing power you can get from S1H. 4K: 4096x2160 - 422 All-I 400Mb/s. Also just because they use a bunch of REDs for Netflix's poor quality content doesn't mean much. It includes advanced video features such as 6K resolution, 4:2:2 10-bit internal recording, V-Log gamma, video scopes, anamorphic support and numerous small details a videographer would love. Using an USB3 reader, I peak at 80 MB/s Write and 92 MB/s read. 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Can't you tell a sarcasm? You calculating bitrates for this format is a non sequiter. You and anyone who believes that “law” have real problems.There. Maybe an updated A7s model will change this? 4K: 4096x2160 - 422 All-I 400Mb/s. So does a 3 year old iPhone according to your analysis. So your original comment makes little to no sense. The S1H isn't a cheap camera at $4,000 for the body, but it's by far the cheapest full-frame Netflix approved camera. £99.99 GoPro Hero7 White deal! I can’t tell. © I agree though that most of what ends up in the pop culture radar is pretty sad. Okay, I looked up Poe’s Law. Using the wrong equipment is unlikely to meet their quality standards, and a waste of time at both ends. Thank you Zxaar - you are one as well! Resolution =/= spatial fidelity. Shorter version: Netflix requires 400Mb/s which is also the S1H's fastest rate. ;-), "Maybe an updated A7s model will change this". There is nothing stupid about assuming that you might be serious (in case that’s what you were implying), because in the absence of any indication on your part that you are not and of any prior about you, it is in fact completely plausible. Their sensor sizes were quite limiting though. I think digital corrections are more needed for video. For Netflix, 60p is not a requirement. The capture settings Netflix is requiring of the S1H, according to the camera production guide linked above. @martijn86 - there some 2/3" sensor models on the list. Not that it matters since the Panasonic sensor is twice as big. Perhaps Netflix thinks that, for viewing video from sensible distances, 4K is already so much more than the human eye can resolve, that upscaling a slight crop, when necessary, will not even be noticed as such, while everything above 4K is sheer overkill, not just as such, but – at least at this point in time – also for the necessary computing power and data transfer bandwith? Have a question or need help with an issue? The arri has slightly larger pixels. Senior Editor Barney Britton's Gear of the Year part two details how he ended up with a Reflex-Nikkor 1000mm F11, and despite its quirks, why it was ideal for a creative project in the COVID-era. Chris and Jordan take a look at the new Sigma 35mm F2 and 65mm F2. @hellraiser Now you start to sound like Duncan; ‘Fujifilm doesn’t want to pay for the certification’.. Really? The S1H is here and no doubt is the best ILC for video, surpassing the GH5 and GH5 s which were formerly the best ILCs for video (according this site and many others). https://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-SL/SL-Lenses. No, I totally get that. Or you can say what you mean and have people understand you. The S1H is the first *stills-motion hybrid* on the list. I think Sony's basic philosophy is inferior to that of Panasonic, and certainly that of Fuji and Sigma, so even when there's a hit, it's more incidental; I'm unconvinced they'll serve artists and professionals through the long haul. It also is less than half the area of the panasonic s1h so the sensitivites aren't really comparable, the panasonic has more pixels per unit image so will not "blow out as easily". What’s the best camera for around $2000? Aristotle said give me the right fulcrum, and I can move the earth. Such lists don't necessarily say that much about technical quality, and nothing about the skilles needed to make an accepted production. "And I don't know what straw man/false equivalency you are ascribing to me with your iphone comment so I will just ignore it.". DPReview TV: Do the Panasonic S5's updated subject recognition and DFD improve autofocus in video? The best cameras for under $1000 should have good ergonomics and controls, great image quality and be capture high-quality video. It was shot with first-time actors I believe and used 3 iPhone 5s cameras. I rattled off a couple responses to your questions. It's about approved Netflix cameras. It is no problem because one uses manual focus when filming.. What follows are the headiest products of 2020, the ones photographers really want. They may not be able to get the same look with S1H. Those list from agencies looked like Canon whatever and then Nikon whatever and the rest can go to hell. An upscaled Arri will have a WAY sharper picture than an a7 III, for example, even though the a7 III natively shoots an oversampled 6k image that is output at 4k. for their resolution or colour depth. In our latest buying guide we've selected some cameras that might be a bit older but still offer a lot of bang for the buck. Though it is sad you keep bringing a non-existent A7Siii as an example of a good Sony ILC for video. I'm not complaining, mind you as I believe that the content often trumps the technical quality and I know that certain kinds of things might never have been made if folks had to pony up the finds and to carry around the most expensive, highest standard of gear... Yeah that's why they put their label only on content they helped create, not just broadcast. Pulling focus with focus-by-wire lenses is sketchy at best, unless you are very close to the focus point. Is that a “problem” on my side? The arri xt has similar sized pixels, being a super-35 sensor. Sony's new Visual Story app for iOS promises event and wedding photographers a variety of useful tools, designed to simplify their workflow and enhance their business. I thought the S1H's noise reduction was non-defeatable. And it’s full width 6K mode is also allowed at least for some situations, according to the more detailed report at Engadget. Secondly, all the best glass will fit the Arri's and the RED's etc, right out the Pelican.If a movie for Netflix had some serious funding, does anyone here think for a minute that the director and cinematographer would simply bang it all together on a camera with such a relatively short history? "SeanzzxxResolution =/= spatial fidelity. There's a reason why vast majority of cinema(excluding budget indie stuff) uses ARRI. That doesn't leave you with much to watch. Of course, if you wish to continue with this strategy despite having observed that it doesn’t work, feel free to. @s1oth1ovechunk I didn't say just everything. The event, which will show off a new 'DN' lens for mirrorless camera systems, is set to take place at 7am ET (4am PT) on December 1. @RvEL: As Netflix wrote: " Other attributes must be taken into account such as dynamic range, form factor, stability, workflow compatibility, etc. " Heck even the GH5 and GH5s are better than any Sony ILC for video. It could then record RAW video, but with more limited resolution and frame rate. The Panasonic S1H Is Netflix Approved Netflix has just announced that the Panasonic S1H is Netflix Approved to shoot Netflix 4k Originals content. Given that no one bothers to read those sucomments down to this point (except Magnar W, myself and Marty G9), the first like is probably self-granted, but for the second there are two options. Don't you remember the recent past when watching TV meant sitcoms with laugh tracks or the latest reality show? Gh5s is also broadcast certified https://www.redsharknews.com/production/item/5447-now-you-can-officially-use-your-gh5s-as-a-primary-camera-for-broadcast, If not certified, then you must sell your movie to Hulu... . Given a choice between a 2 pound S1H on a gimbal or a 40 pound steady cam rig with a big Sony, Arri or Red, going light (with quality) makes sense. Log gamma, 10-bit is the minimum requirement for grading, and keeping the video within legal broadcast limits without crushing the blacks or highlights. All Panasonic models have better still photo capabilities, they are more like very good hybrid cameras which can rival against Blackmagic video. You made a non sequiter and a logical fallacy. To get the full effect, you have to record externally via a 12G connection. Its a good thing that this tech has been made more accessible to more people. The Panasonic S1H is the first mirrorless camera (and the cheapest body) to be certified for Netflix Originals productions. The camera we are taking about cannot record pro res raw internally. How are you supposed to tell whether the author of such a comment, whom you have never seen before, belongs to that set or not? It also features nearly 150 wonderful images from past Olympics games. There'll be no 6K for viewer-consumption, we'll go straight from 4K to 8K. This is an aesthetic choice, which is fine, but don't go selling me that the image produced in this way is somehow SHARPER than that of an Arri upscaled.". Still, it is was a clear difference compared to default video. I myself has used GH5 in past and now S1 and I agree those are very capable cameras. All you have is small snippets of text like “When will those Netflix hipsters open their eyes to the wonders of smartphones and ‘computational’ imaging?”, which a large set of people really believes. @pollup "so if you know it's their #1 requirement, then I don't see what's funny about following their own requirements.". So pour a tall cold one and get ready to treat yourself, 2020 style. Attempting to make it appear to be better than it really is. It may have been a line ball decision but still it's a major coup for Panasonic, FF and mirrorless. edit: Marty G9, joined Sep 26 2019. 8K: … Thanks to its stellar video features, it has made it into the “big league.” It’s the first mirrorless camera to be certified by Netflix. And now your resorting to not responding to any comments I made. @oz that comment has 5 times more content and meaning than any of your troll comments on sony articles. Please list down Netflix Certified cameras. When will those Netflix hipsters open their eyes to the wonders of smartphones and "computational" imaging? The target audience will know it. These cameras will certainly smoke any entry level cinema camera like a C300 or S1H. Fujifilm has announced a special version of its 100MP GFX 100 for infrared imaging. If they can show otherwise, then I'd welcome it. On the other hand, the SSD on my Atomos Ninja V tests at 586 MB/s, and can handle 4Kp60 with ease. So now you're regurgitating marketing material.... Google search for what?To see the usually imperceptible difference between the video out of two different cameras? Only the most brand sensitive readers would think I talked down the S1H. Good material shot in 720 is far better than lousy material shot with expensive cameras. With a 1.8x squeeze, the lens produces a more pronounced anamorphic effect than the 1.33x lenses offered by Sirui, albeit at a much higher cost. Production units are allowed to use it as a main camera shooting in either DCI 4K (4,096 x 2,160) or Ultra HD (3,840 x 2,160) resolutions. We took a look at the field and selected the Panasonic S1H and GH5 as the best cameras for serious videographers. The X-T3 might be an option. Jordan obviously happy. At least that's the way I understood his (funny) comment. The Leica Q2 Monochrom is a version of the Gold Award-winning Q2 that only shoots images in black and white. Your tolerance may be unrealistically low. I dont see anywhere of these "other thimgs taken into consideration".. https://partnerhelp.netflixstudios.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000579527-Cameras-and-Image-Capture, Please note, not all cameras that meet these requirements will be approved as primary cameras. Focus hunting under artificial light seems to be no problem for Netflix. Panasonic Corporation has developed two models of its first Digital Single Lens Mirrorless camera with a 35 mm full-frame image sensor, the LUMIX S1R and the S1. It's stated in the article. This is a great endorsement for them, and there’s nothing negative to say at all. View our sample gallery to see how a bit of shift can change a photo or introduce creative effects. “You still haven't made an actual point.”. 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